troubled mind
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Since leaving watchtower what has been your biggest act of rebellion?
by 3rdgen ini'm in a pissy mood and would love to hear your stories.
personally, i'm thinking of getting a tatoo on my rear end saying wbt$ kiss this!.
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Since leaving watchtower what has been your biggest act of rebellion?
by 3rdgen ini'm in a pissy mood and would love to hear your stories.
personally, i'm thinking of getting a tatoo on my rear end saying wbt$ kiss this!.
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Then (1960) and now (2013)
by theron ware ini was raised as a jw from the age of 7. i was df'd for apostasy in 1971 at the age of 23. it has been 42 years since i have had contact with any jehovah's witnesses, including my family.
last year i moved to tucson.
when i read that a district assembly was coming to town, and that it would be at the convention center only minutes from my house, i decided to check it out.
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troubled mind
My goodness what an interesting story . Thank you AuntBee for sharing this with me . Theron Ware thank you for sharing ,I am sure your story will be a strength to others that find themselves in similar circumstances .
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Feeling very sick!
by msconcerned inwell as you all may or not know i am an m.s and trying to figure all these feeling out.
but i have a dilemma, i will be going on a shepherding call with an elder to "help" a family who is discouraged with the people in the hall.
i have to admit i feel the same way they do so how can i "encourage" them when i feel the same?
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I remember one time we had a Sheparding call and we ended up being the encouraging factor . The poor Elder ended up coming alone because the MS didn't show that was suppose to be with him . This Elder was facing serious health issues ,cancer, and his only son was becoming 'rebellious' . He felt so down and disgusted with how others in the Hall were acting . We ended up giving him emotional support ....it felt good too ,just being open and honest and not following his pre determined outline .
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Funny but kind of sad story
by troubled mind inmy youngest son (26yrs old) told me the other day that his barber told him a funny story .. it seems the barber use to be the janitor at the local grade school ,and one day he came into the office and noticed this little red headed boy sitting in there .
now the man said this was a busy day for the little kids ,holiday parties going on in the class rooms so he was curious as to why this little guy was just sitting in the office ...so the janitor asked the secretary what was up with that ?
.....then he said the little red headed kid speaks up loudly ,"i hate being a witness !!
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My youngest son (26yrs old) told me the other day that his barber told him a funny story .
It seems the barber use to be the janitor at the local grade school ,and one day he came into the office and noticed this little red headed boy sitting in there . Now the man said this was a busy day for the little kids ,holiday parties going on in the class rooms so he was curious as to why this little guy was just sitting in the office ...So the janitor asked the secretary what was up with that ? .....Then he said the little red headed kid speaks up loudly ,"I HATE BEING A WITNESS !!" Then the barber tells my son ,'You know that really made me mad that day seeing that poor kid missing out ,and I have told that story numerous times to others ,but I just realized that little kid was YOU !!" .My son laughed and said he didn't remember that ,but yeah it sounded like something he would have said .
thankfully he is free now and not bitter .
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Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?
by Monsieur inhas anybody here experienced a bonafide, real, true incident in whicy 'demons' actually interacted with you or did something 'supernatural' that left you convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that satan and his demons exist??.
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At the DMV and what do I see?
by whathehadas inthe jw's are taking it a little too far.
people have to wait in line and be tortured by the sight of this.. .
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They set one of these up in the parking lot of the Wal-mart in my town . Just like the Amish baked goods booth and the girl scout cookie girls .Next time I see them I will be asking the Wal-Mart manager if I can set up an Ex-Jw table
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Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?
by Monsieur inhas anybody here experienced a bonafide, real, true incident in whicy 'demons' actually interacted with you or did something 'supernatural' that left you convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that satan and his demons exist??.
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I'll will preface this with ,I personally do not believe in demons ....However recently my youngest son and his friends have started a paranormal investigation team ....I know ,I know .
Well they have gone to two different locations and done interviews ,EVP recordings and video . Something I can not explain is when they have done the white noise box (has another name I don't remember what they call it ) ,but twice when asking questions this box records a voice saying "Hey Look ' and then my son's name . My son's name is not very common . This last time there was a female voice saying his name ,and when i heard it I immediately felt like I knew who this voice belonged to ....someone who has passed . It made me very uneasy ....I have no explaination for it ,yet I still can not believe in demons .
If anyone wants to hear the recording I think i can find it and share .
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My 8 year old daughter tells me she is an atheist...???
by sosoconfused inso since we have not been to a meeting in 6 months or so, i decided to ask my daughter (on the way home from cheerleading practice - yeah i can't believe i am letting her engage in such a worldly activity lol) if she misses going to the kingdom hall.
she says sometimes because she can't see her friend - but she has made new friends so it doesn't bother her too much.
so i ask her, "well, what about learning about jehovah?
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You have NO reason to be mad at this child ..... You just are finding her critical thinking and truthfulness un-nerving for yourself . You are reaching a point that is out of your own comfort zone . Could it be that because your child can now think like this,that maybe it is time for YOU to look inside and examine your own beliefs ,and this makes you uncomfortable ,uneasy .
When my 20-something son told me he was now an atheist ,I know I cringed . I too felt maybe it was my fault that I had turned him away from God .But over time I just realized he has the freedom to decide for himself what to believe . We were brought up with not much of a choice ,at least I wasn't ....I loved Science ,but had to mentally juggle what I learned in class to what was being fed at the KH.
You're daughter is fortunate she will be able to examine all sides and make her own choice .
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exJW Psychology 104--One Way to Play the Depression Card
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite ini had an interesting conversation with bobby (*some names have been changed) last weekend.
he's also a successful fader going back several years before me.
but i found we had something in common that i hadn't realized.. bobby had never been particularly happy growing up.
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Same here, what ultimately made me walk away, and never go back was this intense feeling that if I didn't I would end up killing myself from unhappiness....
Since child hood I suffeered from mild depressive episodes . As an adult I had a major episode that required medication for several years . I searched for reasons why , I could never completely shake these feeelings of worthlessness ,and unhappiness. Then things just started lining up for me ....and for once I began to look at the root causes of what made me sad . Meetings ,and service were not the refreshment the brothers said they were instead I found them stressful, and often demeaning ,and or boring .The brothers said the congregation was our "family" yet all I saw was cliques and back biting ,and people that were fake . The rigorous routine of study, service , meetings,quick builds ,on top of working and caring for a family left me drained not refreshed.
I had never questioned my religion before ...if something was wrong I had always figured it had to be me .. This may sound silly ,but I think what reallly helped me look beyond myself was watching the Dr Phil show ! Especially after his show about cults ,I saw myself in those peoples experiences ,and I felt for the first time that I had the right to question what had been taught to me all my life as 'truth'. From that show I learned about Steve Hasson , Freeminds ,and eventually that led me here .
When I learned about cognitive dissonance it made perfect sense to me why I had been so unhappy . I knew for years I felt I was being torn in two mentally . Me inner personality was geared towards goodness and kindness and this conflicted with the Witness view of disfellowshipment and treatment of worldly people . My own conscience was always being squelched in favor of 'Watchtower" think .
I feel truly happy now ,more than I ever have been in my whole life . The first two or three yrs after fading were difficult I will not lie ,but never as depressing as when I was a JW . It was just a transitioning period into a whole different kind of life .
The few Witnesses I have spoken to since may fade always are amazed when I telll them how happy my life is now....it is like they just can not compute that information .